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  Child Abuse.

  by creativhoney in

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  a question, maybe a dumbass one.

  but i am reading about scandal, cover up and two witness policy.

  - most of the cases seem to be not by the parent, but a trusted brother.. my question is this, - even if the elders might skirt round the issue, and come up with all this mouth of two witnesses stuff, why cant the parent simply go to the police - in this are they just as accountable?

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  No man should be texting a child. That is just wrong. You were right on to be worried. You truly cannot trust any JW. The elders are told not to tell parents. One of the sex offenders in the hall I went to is not a registered sex offender. He missed the dead line of having to register because he did his crime before that law went into affect.

  He is really scary. I got his court records and police records as the elders would not believe me that he even raped children. He was involved with my sister is how I knew he was a child molester. The elders were so mad that I got public records. Hello they are called PUBLIC RECORDS it is legal for me to do that. It was like was breaking the law or something to the elders.

  In fact the elders are breaking the law to allow sex offenders to hold and be around children. At least in my state it is against the law but no one really knows that. If I had known I would have called the police on the elders. The elders could have gotten in more trouble then even the pedophile.

  This whole thing is so maddening and very upsetting. But the friends listen to the elders as if it were Jehovah speaking Himself.
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  Child Abuse.

  by creativhoney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a question, maybe a dumbass one.

  but i am reading about scandal, cover up and two witness policy.

  - most of the cases seem to be not by the parent, but a trusted brother.. my question is this, - even if the elders might skirt round the issue, and come up with all this mouth of two witnesses stuff, why cant the parent simply go to the police - in this are they just as accountable?

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  I cannot understand it myself. We had three pedophiles in our hall. I told one mom who was not informed and she went to the elders. I got into huge trouble for telling this mom that the brother was a registered level two sex offender. It was public information all the mom had to do was go to the cop shops we have and look up his name to make sure what I was telling her was true.

  No this mom went to the elders who told her yes this brother was a sex offender but they assured her that he was totally safe to be around kids and that it was all a miscarriage of justice that he went to prison. The man raped an eight year old child and was in prison for eight years. Miscarriage of justice. Yeh right. The only miscarriage of justice is not informing parents.

  Well I got into huge trouble, the JW mom let her little girl sit with a different child molester and his family for a couple of weeks after I told her and she hates me now. Pedophiles are free to be around kids in any hall. No one is to know. Only the elders and not even all of them know who a convicted child molester is.

  And I am the one casing divisions in the hall.
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  Has the Watchtower ever admitted making a mistake?

  by moomanchu in

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  2. friends

  with all their flip flops, errors and changes, do you know of any printed admission of mistakes made ?.

  have they ever apologized for wrong doctrine?.

  i think it's because of too much pride..

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  I have never seen it in my life time. They just try to make the rank and file feel that they misread or mistook what they sad.

  Like now the 1975 date at the last DC this summer they tried to make out that the friends are the ones who said it but it was never said though the mags or by the GB. I was a kid and I totally remember it. Total lie to say they did not make you feel like the system would end then. They are very careful what they put in writing though. They just say it out loud in talks and such. But with out it written it is easy for them to go back on what they said.

  They will never admit to making a mistake never.
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  Do any of your friends worry you will go back?

  by creativhoney in

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  2. friends

  hello all.. in thes spirit of another thread i read where the boyfriend was badgering our poster about the religion saying he wanted her to forget it and not go back... do you have friends that worry?

  my best friend is always asking me... do you think you will go back?.

  do you think its because when we were in we so vehemently proclaimed we believed it?

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  It nearly, literally, killed me. Darnkid that is so sad.

  I can totally understand it though. Please stay with the friends you

  have. You are so right your kids may not allow you to go to their weddings and

  see the grand babies but your life is so much better with out the cult.

  I totally know what you mean when you say it almost killed you because it did the same

  to me.

  Just stay with your friends they are the most important people you have right now. Thanks to friends like

  MR. and Mrs. Flipper and other that have made me strong.

  And everyone Lisa is so right. THIS MIGHT BE OUR ONLY LIFE... WE NEED TO GET BUSY LIVING IT NOW!
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  Dec. 15th WT - WT Skewed View of Love- Preach, Die, Suffer, Help our Own

  by flipper in

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  well, they are up to their old tricks again.

  trying to manipulate rank and file members views of what " real love " is again.. the title of the study article is " love that never fails " .

  as my jw daughter so succinctly informed me a couple weeks ago that the most important way jehovah's witnesses are counseled to " show love " is by preaching the good news door to door.

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  Thanks Flipper for your take on the WT.

  I love the way you can spell it so well. Your way with word is so great.

  I was hopping someone would make a thread on that and you did a great job.

  Thanks. LITS
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  Slightly weird mess-up by the Society...service meeting part

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  if there's one thing the society loves, it is punctuality and regularity.. every year for at least the past 30 years, without fail, you could set your atomic clock by it, what is the primary topic of the 1st service meeting in january?.

  you find out where and when your district convention will be that year.. so, looking at the december km, sure enough, there is an insert covering the usual topics (don't save seats, arrive on time, spit out your gum, don't pee in the hotel pool, etc.)..

  but wait a minute!

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  They are so busy with Jehovah bring it to their attention about pedophiles in the halls that they forgot.

  They honestly did not know that a level 3 sex offender should not take care of children. And when it was

  pointed out to them they got all rattled.
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  Hi, Im newly out

  by carpediem in

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  nice to be here and look forward to meeting you all.

  i made a very sudden exit from 'the lie' approx 5 months ago.

  was going to try and slowly fade but couldnt do it.

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  Welcome! This is a great place to come and realize that you are not alone.

  I too have just stopped going after being a JW for 45 years back in March. Pedophiles did it for me.

  My hubby is still in and I am working on him. It is hard two steps forward one step back.

  The freedom is so great that you feel.

  Do not let the debaters get you down on this board, that can happen but there are some very great people here also.

  Take care. LITS
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  My daughter (JW) just called .......

  by mouthy in

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  after all these years!!!!

  she is 63 yrs old still a jw.. has shunned me for years.. she lives in montreal me in ontario... .

  last week i got the urge to send her a lovely card just to tell her i love her .

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  So happy for you.
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  The ONE 'sin' I NEVER heard of in all my time as a JW . . . . .

  by nicolaou in

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  2. medical

  i never heard of any sister having an abortion - doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that i never heard of one.. i've personally known child abusers, closet gays, drunks and thieves all within my time at just 2 congregations.

  i know one brother who hid the fact he had blood transfusions at a critical time.

  now i'm certainly not lumping in an abortion with acts of abuse or dishonesty, and for the record i don't consider it a 'sin' (whatever that is).

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  I knew of one who was reproved for gluttony.
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  Are Witnesses really this stupid that they need to be told this?

  by kurtbethel in

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  2. friends

  even after years of study at awake u?.

  taken from a yahoo group discussion:.

  > on local needs this week, wash hands after using restroom.

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  When I was a teenager in the truth the saying went if you are sick you do not feel good no matter where you are at. So why not go to the meetings because staying home will not make you well. Many were guilted into going to the meetings and spreading their germs to everyone. I caught a cold this way from a MS it was one of the worst colds I ever had. Oh how I wished the guy had just stated home but no he was so proud of himself for dragging himself to field service and making the car group suffer through his hacking and weezing. Stupid looking back.